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We serve you on your spiritual journey. There are six things which the Lord hates. what do you mean by "the correct gita verse?" XVII. Please accept my humble obeisances. I appreciate the time you took. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. BG 18.7 Prescribed duties should never be renounced., BG 18.59 By [Arjunas] nature, [he] will have to be involved in warfare.. BG 6.15 Heaven is the cessation of existence., Revelation 21:1-4 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. Mundane and numerically limited conception of saviorship (guru). every animals are our relatives we are killing them,plant too,we are destroing them. 28) This is the good news which I have shared. BELIEVE. Since the name of Bhagavn is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead, to ask Him to fulfil our wishes is to consider Him, the supremely worshipable, our servant. Dear friend do not critisized other.know yourself and think your self and try to see yourself. As he told the challenging Professor Suthers, We claim to be greater and better Christians than Westerners.While lauding Jesus as a aktyvea-avatra3who did not teach the eat, drink, and be merrybusiness, These values are found in the Bible and are celebrated as being from God. In modern society, this is a very appealing statement. If, during that attempt and process, I get to read certain other sacred texts, wonderful. BG 3.5- Duty is prescribed by being born into a specific caste. Confusion between conditioned and free spiritual functions. All glories to HH Sri Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura and HH Bhakti Vikasa Swami who compiled all this ! Krsna is the truth. After teaching English to a Hindu family, I was very interested in learning more about the primary Hindu text: the Bhagavad Gita (BG). A book called The Unknown Life of Christ published in the 19th century indicates that Jesus had spent his life in the Himalayas where he might have come in contact with Buddhists and Hindu Saints. 8.19 Again and again, when Brahms day arrives, all living entities come into being, and with the arrival of Brahms night they are helplessly annihilated. Because of the lack of information, most assert that the BG would fit in the literary category of the epic, along with Homers Iliad and Odyssey. This reasoning is as cyclical as the cycles of reincarnation taught in this book. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Unlike the BG, whose translators tell us, Vedic knowledge is complete because it is above all doubts and mistakes We have to accept perfect knowledge which comes down, as is stated in Bhagavad-gita (BG Intro, 13), the Bible actually tells us to test everything and only accept it if it passes our tests. Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. For more, see here. I every culture, there is a story of a great flood and of survivalwhen men began to grow in numbers after the flood, their language was confused and they instantlt spoke different tongues. Consequences of actions are, after all, not your fault since Krishna demands that you follow your duty. Isnt it interesting that Krishna admits that certain types of prescribed duties are full of fault ? ;). Bible is the only truth. can u give the correct gita verse? In hinduism their is the god Vishnu, the preserver of lifetake away the 'V' from 'Vishnu' [Sanskrit] and we are left with 'Ishnu', which is non other than the Hebrew name for 'Noah'. Every text of these quotes, goes in the same meanings and in the same order. Ought we trust someone just because they tell us they are trustworthy? Pagan is Vedic. Thus he sincerely prayed with mind, body, and words to free the jvas from the malady of material existence. I was simply expressing my own situation. In a later passage, his definition of abominable seems to be more inline with Arjunas perceived moral obligation to love his family. ), was all about love. So first and foremost it should be clearly understood that the eternal knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita has not been influenced by Buddhism, Christianity, Hebrewism or Islam; for these religions did not exist at that time and were established milleniums later. Srila prabhupada as well as Srila gurudeva says, essence of all religions is to know and love God .So you see , to a sincere seeker like you, lines of Holy Bible are making so much sense . After hearing r Siddhnta Sarasvats protracted response, Reverend Butler declared that previously he had discussed the same topics with many reputed paitas and religious leaders of Navadvpa, but unlike r Siddhnta Sarasvat, none had been able to give an intelligent response.When told that no one in Vndvana could proffer a satisfactory rebuttal to a visiting Christian priest who had accused Ka of flouting Vedic principles by dancing with others wives, rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat commented that Vndvana is inhabited by neophyte devotees. rla Sarasvat hkura shed the light of Gauya siddhnta on certain Biblical teachings. As our Gurudev teaches, we can remain in our religions, and with the help of Krishna consciousness, we can be better Christians, better Muslims, better Buddhists. If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? But I understood more from all the scriptures (Vedic and otherwise) I had read after I read Srila Prabhupadas books. Consider the aspects of societal divisions and duty as seen from the Bible. The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International, Inc., The BG is a story about the supreme Hindu god, Krishna, and his discussion with his follower, Arjuna. There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. Consider your feelings and emotions. God created us and he has put within us a compass pointing us to do what is right and to flee from what is evil. If he truly desired peace, why did he command Arjuna to fight at least five times (BG 2.18, 39; 3.30; 8.7; 11.33-34) ?
very interesting to read about this good article..may god bless all and peace with all. Lord Krishna spoke the Bhagavad-Gita on the battlefield of Kuruksetra in 3102 B.C. God will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well- doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self- seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. For even sinners love those who love them. Q: Some say Jesus cannot be the Messiah because no man can die for another's sins. Please subscribe to daily inspirational emails from His Grace Sriman Sankarshan Das Adhikari (Writings and lectures archived at www.sda-archives.com), written fresh every day from his travels around the world sharing the highest spiritual knowledge with everyone. On hearing of the desire of Vsudeva Datta hkura, the servant of the spiritual world, to suffer in hell for these jvas, such persons, who are impelled by innate malice and a dualistic outlook, give him great respect, seeing him as a regular pious karm or jn. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. For example, the 1000 ages Krishna mentions are not even a day of God, they are simply one day of Brahma, who is not God Gods time scale has no days and no nights, simply the eternal ever-present. Yes lets try to share some inspiration when ever this is possible. Here is another passage in the BG where devotion to Krishna requires a blind acceptance of Krishnas words as truth, solely because he said so. Why ought we to believe in the cyclical rebirths and reincarnation taught in the BG? What we see then and now are just takes on the original belief of Noah and his God! In fact, I cant recall love ever being mentioned in a positive light. * He also warned that if the semitic psychology, represented by the notion of an undefinable Supreme Being, was tantamount to asserting that God is formless, then it struck at the very root of all genuine spiritual activity.10 Similarly, he found a whiff of voidism in the Christian doctrine of creation ex nihilo. Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.154-157 New York, December 7, 1966. I think every one of us has some story, lets share in this group and discuss.. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. (LogOut/ It is tempting to accept the notion that all religions are just different, but very similar, representations of each cultures desire to leave the world better than they found it. He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy Titus 3:5. (can u give an example?). He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away, Krishnas mercy depends on our perfection, A person free from all attachment and aversion and able to control his senses through regulative principles of freedom can obtain the complete mercy of the Lord BG 2.64. (Arjuna to Krishna: Bhagavad Gita 4:4)The people said, You arent even fifty years old. There are several similarities in expression and meaning between Bhagavad Gita and New Testament. 3, Matt 18:20 = For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them.". He has created us in His image (Genesis 1:26) and we have the same moral values as our Creator. Matt 12:30 = "He who is not with me is against me, See above for more on the "vile, deluded" part. Communication between the langusge groups was neigh on imposible, so they went their seperate waysbut they all took knowledge of this flood with themthey also took knowledge of the God of NoahAs time passed by, this knowledge of the flood and of the True God became corrupted and men began to embelish their beliefs and we see in relgions past and present, glimses of the original true beliefTake for example Hinduism. So in that list of incarnations youll find Lord Kas name also, Lord Rmas name also, Lord Buddhas name also. Take careful note of the implications of the following passage: By following his qualities of work, every man can become perfect. But to make a show of chanting for some other purpose, for actualizing our own desires, is useless. He equated Jesus famous submission Thy will be done,spoken from the position of a devotee, to the similarly well-known conclusion of Bhagavad-gt, sarva-dharmn parityajya mm eka araa vraja (Abandon all varieties of dharma and just surrender unto Me), uttered from the standpoint of Godhead. rla Sarasvat hkura clearly delineated the superior position of Gaura-bhaktas over that of Lord Jesus: In the Western countries, Christians believe that the magnanimous Lord Jesus Christ is the only guru, who appeared in this world to accept the burden of all sins of the jvas. Q: In what sense is Jesus a prophet like Moses (Deut 18:18)? All glories to Srila Prabhupada Recognizing r Gaurasundara as the ultimate reality devoid of all illusion and the original Personality of Godhead, Vsudeva Datta bore on his shoulders the burden of the material disease of all jvastheir indifference to Kaand not only their sins, but superlatively more formidable, their multitudinous terrible offenses. Lets first examine the methods by which these books ought to be read. There is but one truth, one path, one assembly. What do you think about it? The writing of the BG has been dated somewhere between 400 BC and 200 AD but there is no evidence within the writing itself that assumes a historical date of the events therein. It is sinful to reject your prescribed duty or to aspire to a higher duty than the one you have been born into. All glories to Srila Gurudeva and Gurumata. BG 8.13 All sensual engagements are sin. 1.44-45. Farming, cow protection and business are the natural work for the vaisyas, and for the sudras there are labor and service to others. Change). Thanks for your inspiring words, encouragement and blessings, your words means so much to me. The universal principle of love of God still remains the same. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories unto Srila Gurudeva. Would Krishna be pleased with someone born to a family of beef butchers who worked in the slaughterhouse because of his prescribed duty? Arjuna was right before he listened to Krishna! Jesus- I came that [you] may have life, and may have it abundantly. (LogOut/ (Jewish people to Jesus: John 8:57). 1) If Krishna truly desired peace (BG,xiv), why did he give his army to Duryodhana and give himself as advisor and chariot driver to the Pandavas, Duryodhanas enemies? The light is the only truth. If you are a Christian, please show love to your Hindu friends and neighbours. Anyone who comes as representative of God, or as God, as powerful incarnation, they are all welcome. 57), Bhagavad Gita: Be assured that he who worships me, perishes not. As I read the BG, however, I didnt find very much about love. To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of religion, I myself appear, millennium after millennium. BG 4.8, Time I am, the great destroyer of the worlds, and I have come here to destroy all people. BG 11.32, The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.- 2 Peter 3:9, Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life.'. . Tell them about the abundant life that Jesus has provided for everyone who follow Him (John 10:10). 1 Lord, You have been our dwelling place in all generations. I. All Eastern religions are from it. Your birth followed the birth of the sun; how can I comprehend that you taught it in the beginning? His doctrine is the base of all religious belief. What Are The Similarities Between The Bible And The Bhagavad Gita? All glories to Srila Prabhupada. 8.17 By human calculation, a thousand ages taken together form the duration of Brahms one day. This is an offense. (Ch. Unfortunately, Arjuna listens to Krishna, who tells him that his love for his family is degrading impotence and weakness of heart (2.4) because he is not ready to uphold his duty. I find this to be a major logical fallacy. BG 2.47 (3.19, 31; 18.9) You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of your action. In summary, everyone is born into a particular caste, which comes with its own particular duty. But there is authentic record to prove that teachings of Buddha had reached the Greek world long before the birth of Christ. Ashtavakra Gita to Know Almighty Pt 18.37, LEARNING CAN LIBERATE SELF-DECEPTIVE MIND: HAIKU, Shrimad Bhagwat Mahapuran to Know Krishna & Origin of Universe 34, Swami Vivekanand most inspirational quote ,And happy birthday to Swami Vivekananda, 12 Names of lord hanuman and there importance in kali yug, IS It true that Mecca a very worshipped Muslim Sacred place is a shiv ji temple. Q: Which is preferred, the local or the global flood theory for the Genesis flood? Hare Krishna Kaspar prabhu The God of the Bhagwad Geeta on the other hand actually says ' I envy no one, nor am I partial to anyone. Christianity shows the way of holy life, they teach that there IS God. BG 3.22-24 Even Krishna is subjected to prescribed duties. instead of giving page no. Please accept my humble respects,
Nice points you noticed and nice answers too. IX. Krishna descends to this planet once in a day of Brahma, or every 8,600,000,000 years (BG, Much like the Book of Mormon (Moroni 10:4) , the BG asks its reader to trust it as absolute truth, Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but, I know your deeds and your toil and perseverance, and that you cannot tolerate evil men, and, Unlike the BG, whose translators tell us, Vedic knowledge is complete because it is above all doubts and mistakes We have to accept perfect knowledge which comes down, as is stated in Bhagavad-gita (BG Intro, 13), the Bible actually tells us to test, Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, knowledge, wisdom and religiousness these are the natural qualities by which the, Consider the aspects of societal divisions and, You can imagine that the standards of morality given by Jesus and Krishna would be as vastly different as the prescribed duties that each of them teach. New Testament, Bible: Whatsoever is not of faith is sin. "I am the Supersoul, O Arjuna, seated in the hearts of all living entities. And true Christians with open heart will deffinetely meet a devotee with Prabhupadas books. Srila Prabhupada and the other Acharyas in disciplic succession from Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu are for everyone, including myself, who could easily be seen as worse than a mleccha (uncultured uncivilized person who does things like kill the mother cow). I think nothing bad reading Bible. Should the son of a family of beggars, with a talent for music, not seek to improve his familys desperate status by leaving his socio-economic class behind for a better, more prosperous status? By worship of the Lord, who is the source of all beings and who is all-pervading, a man can attain perfection through performing his own work. if you are not born of spirit then you are not a Christian, so you cannot know God. I am the Son. 8.18 At the beginning of Brahms day, all living entities become manifest from the unmanifest state, and thereafter, when the night falls, they are merged into the unmanifest again. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from this sites author and/or owner is strictly prohibited. Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: And one who spreads strife among brothers. How can you say you have seen Abraham? The duties and qualities of each of the four divisions (Brahmans, Ksatriyas, Vaisyas, and Sudras) are laid out in BG 18.42-44.
All glories to the assembled devotees My spiritual master was initiated by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada in 1971. The lowest class cannot attain to anything higher than physical labor and service to others. You can imagine that the standards of morality given by Jesus and Krishna would be as vastly different as the prescribed duties that each of them teach. Those who believe & have received LORD JESUS as thr LORD & SAVIOR will be saved for Eternal life. By logging in to LiveJournal using a third-party service you accept LiveJournal's User agreement. Whether one is a Christian,Hindu,Muslim,Jain,Buddist etc the essence of religion is to become a lover of God.The original constitutional position of living entitiy is to be a servant of servant of servant of the servant of Krsna.Krsna has unlimited names and incarnates in many forms like Rama,Nrsimha,Vishnu,Vamana ,Varaha,etc but the original form is the beautiful form of Krsna a blusih boy with two -handed form and playing a flute.In Brahma-samhita Lord Brahma mentions that Krsna is original cause of all the causes and has an eternal body full of knowledge and bliss.He is unborn,original and maintainer of all living entities. The Holy Bible was the first spiritual literature I seriously read and Lord Jesus Christ and his followers are speaking as Vaishnavas (devotees of Lord Vishnu and Krsna is the original Vishnu) do. All names are Gods. 31) These before and after pictures of Ukraine are heartbreaking, Did Baba Vanga predict about the Russia Ukraine war years ago? It is better to engage in ones own occupation, even though one may perform it imperfectly, than to accept anothers occupation and perform it perfectly. If this was true, how could any religion claim to be superior to another? We should not chant to attain dharma-artha-kma-moka. Similarities Between the Bible and the Bhagavad-Gita, John 1:2 = He was with God in the beginning. 5 You have swept them away like a flood, they fall asleep; In the morning they are like grass which sprouts anew. Enter your email address to follow The Christian Exile, and receive notifications of new posts by email. But the answer is very simple. When some Christian priests proposed to him that mdhurya-rasa is also an aspect of Christianity, as evidenced by those medieval mystics who sought unity with Christ as their bridegroom, rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat rejected that claim, for such esoteric endeavors were focused on the son of Godhead rather than directly on the Supreme Lord Himself. Wishing you more bhakti(devotion) and Gyan(knowledge) and begging the same for me.. Dear Mahabhagavat Prabhu. Quite often Bhagavad Gita is spoken as the Bible of the Hindus. Mundane organization of the Christian church. 3 You turn man back into dust And say, Return, O children of men. 4 For a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it passes by, Or as a watch in the night.
However, at point number 3, a wrong comparison has been made with the bible. rla Sarasvat hkura and his followers invested tremendous energy to refute such claims and establish Kas purity as far beyond that imaginable by mundane moralists, whose insistence that Godhead must conform to behavioral standards was actually an impertinent imposition on His absolute freedom. A prayer of Moses the man of God. Raavan seeing Lakshman standing near his feet told him 3 secrets that would make anyone's life successful. Athough there are difference between thousand years and thousand ages, still the way they are compared like a one day to God, and then again, to night. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Further in both scriptures, devotional service is explained.
So do not think that the Hindus, they have got disregard for Lord Buddha or for Lord Jesus Christ. Krishna The four divisions of human society are created by Me..
He took all the sins of whole mankind on the Cross. Thank you for your comments James. I am the beginning, the middle and the end of all beings. All paths are revealed in the Bhagavad Gita and to my understanding, the Kurukshetra War is the point of the confusion of languages as spoken in the Bible. No. A pure devotee can not forget Krsna for a moment and similarly the Supreme lord cannot forget His pure devotees for a moment. If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? 1 Timothy 6:17 God richly provides us with everything to enjoy. Eloquent speakers tongues reach perfection by glorifying the qualities of such devotees of Lord Caitanya. The duties taught by Krishna might very well include fighting and killing because of the group you were born into. XIV. This is the great blessings of Krsna conscious process that by chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra-Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare one becomes freed from all material contamination and attains to his natural position as a servitor to Krsna. I began studying The Holy Bible when I was 10 years of age, and I did a very detailed course with Q&A reviewed by teachers etc., and I have come across so many wonderful passages from the Bible over the years also. Though the preface to the book claims that the BG is historically authorised (BG, xvii), The historicity of the BG, unlike that of the Christian and Jewish writings, is difficult to certify because of the lack of evidence. Buddha shared India Vedism. I am not prepared to fight with them even in exchange for the three worlds, let alone this earthSin will overcome us if we slay such aggressorsHow could we be happy by killing our own kinsmen?Why should we, who can see the crime in destroying a family, engage in these acts of sin? This is not highly prejudiced exaggeration or interpretation, but straightforward elucidation of the truth. BG 2.31 Duty is specific according to caste. Yet this doesnt mean that we do not need to chant the Lords names constantlywhile sleeping, while dreaming, while eating, or when walking about.